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Should I make TS3 Standalone?
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Should Tiberian Sun 3 be a manual installation or Standalone?
Manual Install (25mb)
10%
 10%  [ 2 ]
Standalone (105mb)
60%
 60%  [ 12 ]
Both, now get to work!
30%
 30%  [ 6 ]
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Aydra
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 6:38 pm    Post subject:  Should I make TS3 Standalone? Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

So should I make TS3 standalone, some ppl were telling me to do that, is that easier for everyone? Its only 20mb atm but standalone will be over 100mb.

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DeathlyRose
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 7:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

yes make it standalone, even though it will be much bigger file thats really not a big problem compared too needing the entire game too play and its portable

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OrangeNero
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 7:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Would you share some info on how you want to go standalone? I was thinking of this as well but by sharing the whole free TS modded, would be over 1 GB.

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DeathlyRose
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 7:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

scratch what i just wrote i'm pretty sure standalones compress most of the files so space it takes up will be much smaller

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TiberFCSL
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 8:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

It should be over 1 GB if you keep the movies and the music, but if you delete that things and other things too, it gets smaller Wink

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DeathlyRose
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 8:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

we only really need gameplay wise other things aren't needed expect maybe music if he can get new.

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Aydra
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 9:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

TS3 doesnt work with campaigns, so i can remove those and the videos. That takes it down from 1.6gig to 276mb. Now if i compress it in a zip it comes to 186mb. There are probably some other things i can take out and shave that down even more.

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OmegaBolt
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 9:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

You could get it much smaller I imagine... since you've replaced most of the units you can remove the original graphics. The thing to do would be (when ready) to repackage the entire game into TibSun and associated mixes, removing any redundant files along the way.

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iamn00b
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 11:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

start with UTS, 71 MB

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Banshee
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 3:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

If you are not really hacking the game executable yet, I don't see a reason to make it standalone, honestly. If people need the game, just link it. Do not force everyone to download a huge file because some people do not have the game.

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Orac
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 3:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

No reason not to now that TS is free.

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TiberFCSL
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 3:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

What does someone do when downloading a non-standalone mod?
To unpack OfficialCnCTiberianSun.rar into a new folder and then unpacking the mod into that folder.
That new folder will weigh over 1 GB, that is too much.
If the mod is standalone the modder can delete all the stuff that the mod doesn't use.
Blah blah blah
What I'm trying to say, is that the non-standalone mod will use a lot more disk space.

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OrangeNero
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 4:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Banshee wrote:
If you are not really hacking the game executable yet, I don't see a reason to make it standalone, honestly. If people need the game, just link it. Do not force everyone to download a huge file because some people do not have the game.


He could provide both downloads so all get happy, someone just got to download what fits him better. No?

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Aydra
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 4:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Well I just got a cleaned up version of TS from TiberFCSL, and TS3 is a total of 89mb and only 45mb zipped for downloading.

I thought it was going to be alot bigger, but 45mb isnt much at all.

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TiberFCSL
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 4:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Quote:
He could provide both downloads so all get happy, someone just got to download what fits him better. No?

Yeah! Better!

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SMIFFGIG
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 11:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Maybe you should make a Poll so everyone can vote Aydra?

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Aydra
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 1:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Quote:
Maybe you should make a Poll so everyone can vote Aydra?


Done!

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Aydra
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 5:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Is there a registry add file that a Standalone TS needs to come with? If so anyone have it?

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Krow
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 5:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Use Free TS?

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Aydra
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 7:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I don't know exactly how a .exe functions or other registry programming stuff. So what I'am really wondering is why when I copy my game folder and place it somewhere else, it comes up with the "one or more .dll are missing". I already have the stripped version of TS with my mod and its ready to go. Why does it do this and how do I make my mod distribution ready? If someone could explain this to me in some detail I'd greatly appreciate it since im a noob in the area. Sad

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Ixith
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 09, 2012 12:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

wish I could help you there...but i don't know. lol

however, i voted for making it a stand alone simply because i'd be more inclined to play it then as i'm usually too lazy to add in a mod manually and then remove it when I want normal TS and/or i'm just too lazy to add an additional Free TS just for a mod.

But...if you don't mind making it both ways then that's probably the better way to go about it.

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iamn00b
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 09, 2012 3:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

again, you can start with UTS (Micro TS, created by Judeau, "Portable, no campaign, movies or music, just the engine and needed resources for skirmish and lan"), its only 71 MB..

http://freedomstudios.net/mods/incursion/UTS.7z (hm.. seems m7 removed the files)

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OmegaBolt
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 09, 2012 3:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

IIRC you only need Blowfish.dll and Language.dll for it to work.

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m7
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 09, 2012 8:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

That's an old version, iamn00b. I don't necessarily have time to access and upload the UTS download to the server right now, but I will soon.

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