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Red tiberium vs Light blue tiberium
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Should TSR have Red tiberium or Light Blue tiberium
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SMIFFGIG
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 25, 2004 3:51 pm    Post subject:  Red tiberium vs Light blue tiberium Reply with quote

What would u prefer in TSR

Red tiberium (which was in TSR 1.0 and 1.1)
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Light blue tiberium (which is currently in TSR 1.2)

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 25, 2004 4:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

doh.. i'm the only guy voted light blue... why, coz there's too many reds in the game already!! #Tongue
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 25, 2004 7:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Voted Red.. i also use it in TSTW, fits to Aboreus..

Also combines very nicely with Red light posts.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 25, 2004 10:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

FireStorm wrote:
doh.. i'm the only guy voted light blue... why, coz there's too many reds in the game already!! #Tongue


....there are?????? i almost never c any red ore in the game i think theres 2 many light blue and green

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 25, 2004 10:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i think red looks cool and agree that theres too much bloo tiberium already Smile
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2004 6:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i wasnt saying abt ore or tiberium... i was refering to the colors ingame... cheetboss yeah i guess red tiberium would be cool :S
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2004 7:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think red, but I think there should be some comparision screenshots so we can decide.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2004 1:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well once I started using it in my one fun mod, I new that it was a far supior colour for tiberium.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2004 1:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Light blue Tiberium is an original idea, unlike Red tib which has been used nearly every TS mod.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2004 2:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wouldn't call a colour an original idea.. many mods use light blue as well. i guess making it invisible would be original.

btw, Aboreus IS red now that i'm thinking of it. Check the concept arts.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2004 3:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i dont want to put a biased slant on the voting
but i think Aberous is actually latin for "Blood Red" Cool
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2004 4:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And also should of been used in TS.... So fits TSR Wink

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2004 4:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe orange tiberium..

It maybe look cool Smile

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2004 4:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

light blue and blue tiberium what's the difference? Confused

I'd suggest red then...

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2004 8:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SMIFFGIG wrote:
i dont want to put a biased slant on the voting
but Aberous is actually latin for "Blood Red" Cool


Exactly.. i was waiting for somebody to note it... i study Latin you know..

Now you need red fona's... you'll need an edited ISOTEM.pal for that however.. the current one only has only orange and red orso.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 27, 2004 10:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i think what wes.com said would be cool, an orange tib or maybe a turquoise (combo of blue and green)
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 28, 2004 1:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i'd consider black tiberium a canidate imo
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 28, 2004 2:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Get the heck out of here! I'm taking Latin too! I hate it tho...
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 28, 2004 2:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

fremen5 wrote:
i'd consider black tiberium a canidate imo


Ya black tib is cool to, I used black and red, the two mixed together look really cool.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2004 5:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hellfire wrote:
Ya black tib is cool to.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2004 5:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

settle down... Nobody said we were putting it in TSR. IMO black tib is pretty stupid.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2004 5:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

red is wining Sad

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2004 9:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So how does Aboreus compare to Vinifera in TSR? In TS they have the exact same properties, so I'm just curious. I use Aboreus as a means of annoyance rather than an economic solution. It spreads very fast and is hardly worth anything at all. One of the many things I do just to piss people off Smile
By the way, has anyone tried silver tiberium? I wonder what it looks like.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 12:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

pft1086 the values are as follow

Green (Riparius) =$25 per bail
Blue (Cruentus) =$50 per bail
Red (Aboreus) =$100 per bail

and it has been decided, Aboreus is now red and looks great with its new image too, ill post a screenie if you want it

I have been playing 1.22 beta online alot with Red Tiberium, works great
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 12:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, post a screeny, and make sure it includes something unseen Wink

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 7:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SMIFFGIG wrote:
Green (Riparius) =$25 per bail
Blue (Cruentus) =$50 per bail
Red (Aboreus) =$100 per bail


Wow... does this mean that a harvester full of Riparius gives u only 500 credits? cuz original value is 35 (gives 700). In TSTW i use this:

Riparius value=50 (gives 1000)
Vinifera value=75 (gives 1500)
Aboreus value=100 (gives 2000)

I'm using Aboreus a lot in my maps. It's good for variation in lighting (i add red lighting to Aboreus patches)

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 8:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

no dvd, the original value is 25.

And with the amount of money that your values give, it allows you to super quickly spew out tons of units and complete the tech tree in no time.

I have tested with higher values and its ridiculous, tottaly undermines many aspects of gameplay and makes the game unbalanced.

However im sure its fitting in TSTW but certainly not for TSR (based on experience pre 1.0)
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 10:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lol not in TSTW those tech trees are horribly expensive. #Tongue Same with units, though the extra cash helps(Along with the enhanced harvester.)
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 13, 2004 12:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, the money in TSTW is especially helpful in TSTW if your'e CABAL...
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 13, 2004 8:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Uh smiff. in original TS, the harvester carries 20 bails. 20x$25=500. I'm pretty sure it was 700 for one full load, so it's gotta be $35 :rolleyes:

And yes TSTW is much faster paced than TSR. TSR is slower than standard TS...TSTW is much faster. Damage is also increased and such... i like that, it's more realistic IMO. Increased build times and more money also make superweapons less effective.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 13, 2004 8:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Original values:
Riparius=25
Harvester Bails=28
Harvester Dump=700

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 14, 2004 10:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hehe Confused

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 17, 2004 12:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah so is tsr u get 2800 for aboreus
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 18, 2004 10:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lol the tiberium values in TSR 1.0 were outrageous i just remember..

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 18, 2004 8:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ive never player tsr 1.0 so i have no idea
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 18, 2004 9:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

im not quite sure what dvd is talking about they where EXACTLY the same as in TSR 1.1 and 1.2 and 1.21

when i said ive tested it, i did state PRE-1.0
and i did not publically release any pre 1.0 versions of TSR, so there is no way dvd could have played any version of TSR with higher values of tiberium unless he edited them himself ?

so dvd if you think the 1.0 tiberium values are outragously high, then you must think that the values in 1.2 are. and they are the same as the standard TS values (except with new Red Tiberium), so you must think standard TS values are outrageous too ??? Confused
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 19, 2004 7:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Uh well i can remember that when i played TSR 1.0 (back in the time you got that site hosted at Origin) i played on Tiberium Valley and remember having way too much money with two harveys... but forget it #Tongue

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 19, 2004 3:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ahh, could have been cause i changed the spread rate of tiberium to make it REALLY fast (like an old RA1 Aftermath map) not sure though
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PostPosted: Sun May 23, 2004 9:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Red all the way oh and thanx for banning me smiffy i think that says something about you and your obvious superiority complex
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PostPosted: Sun May 23, 2004 9:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hey i was commenting on the tiberium and thought id add that he obviously...actualy im not gonna argue but SMIFFGIG check the download links i think the files are corrupted
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 2004 11:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There was a plan by Westwood to use Red Tiberium, and several other colors..but got scrapped WAY WAY Early on in the game's design...As I've heard from several people. =/
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 9:43 pm    Post subject: red location Reply with quote

what maps have the red tiberium in them Question

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 12:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You need to search for red coloured tiberium by playing each new map, or you can try to check if your final sun shows them red or some other colour than green or blue...with me, they mix up, red tiberium has the same colour as green tiberium.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 3:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually, Red Tiberium normally uses the same values/color of blue tiberium ingame, yet appears on a lot of TS maps in blue pits. Its rare, yet there.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 4:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yuri 06 wrote:
You need to search for red coloured tiberium by playing each new map, or you can try to check if your final sun shows them red or some other colour than green or blue...with me, they mix up, red tiberium has the same colour as green tiberium.


that is because you are running your monitor in 16 bit color. change it to 32 bit and it will display properly

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Actually, Red Tiberium normally uses the same values/color of blue tiberium ingame, yet appears on a lot of TS maps in blue pits. Its rare, yet there.


yah I noticed that when I enabled red tib in a private mod of mine a while ago. out of nostagia I played the grand canyon map and in the center of the blue field next to the gas station was a larg area of red tib. also in a slot canyon twords the bottom of the map all the red tib there had become blue. I guess WW did this on a few maps to keep us on our toes
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 6:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, they simply didn't go for the completely different 3rd type of Tiberium, but as the coding was already implemented, they just simply cloned Vinifera, but I think with reduced spread.

As a result, you'll see it in quite a few WW maps, usually found in the middle of blue fields, or just completely seperate.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 07, 2006 12:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I love the red tib
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 08, 2006 9:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bloody red Twisted Evil
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